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AhCraps player's Betting History for the 4th week's rolls for T3 Bets 16 - 20

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Rolls 16 - 20 analyzed, actual rolls can be viewed here

Let's see, now. I believe I said last weekend I'd start out with a large place bet on the six and eight - working - hedged by a significant line bet - hedged by a significant WORLD bet. So let's plug some numbers in and see where that would have put us Monday night

Let's say $600 each on the six and eight working. $1000 on the Pass Line. And let's toss out a $100 World. The call was . . . YO!

No harm done on the six and eight.
Win $1000 on the Pass Line.
Win $240 net on the World.
Total win on that toss - $1240.

It's been quite a week around the old Craps Pit. Shooter continues to live (and die) by the don'ts while DD chases the elusive 2 and 12. Yeah, I'm with you Doc. I thought we'd have seen one of those by now, too. Meanwhile GSS and PLG are neck and neck. But GSS is looking desperate. He was pretty much "all in" on that last come out roll - praying for a box number. Hmmm. Maybe he should have thrown it all in the Field.

Well, the table's getting cool, now. That last hand was ugly and I expect to see more of the same. Now's the time to hit the don'ts - but watch out for the Big Red on the come out roll. That dog will bite you.

Those of you who are following this game may be interested in playing in a real craps tournament some day. While they are rare - they are very costly for the casinos to operate because they are so labor intensive - there is a web site that lists all of the current tournaments. If you're interested in what his happening where, here's a link that'll take you there:

http://www.casino-expert.com/craps-guide/tournaments.htm

Cheers - heavy

Rolls 1 - 5 analyzed & actual rolls can be viewed here

Rolls 6 - 10 analyzed, actual rolls can be viewed here

Rolls 11 - 15 analyzed, actual rolls can be viewed here

Roll #16 posted 10/28/02

Top 2 players and one on the bubble as of roll #16
1 P.L.G $3760
2 G.S.S. $3650
3b DiceDoc $2675

                            Player:  G.S.S.   profile
Bankroll: $3650 Standing Bets: $1800 Tray Bankroll: $1850
Players bet 16: NO BET>< NO BET 'INCORRECT FORMAT>Leave standing BET><As per: :Field $500)(Lay the 8 for $1200)(place the #6 for $600)All Working

DEALER'S ACTION LAYOUT:            Field $500   Lay $1200 #8 Placeon $600 #6

Reason for bet:  When I rolled out of bed this morning I was thinking,"maybe I could shoot at my other foot today." Let's bet that we wont see three 8's in a row. martingale the field it'll come up before we run out of money, and heavy's right about the #6 being awfully common this game.

BETS IN PLACE FOR NEXT ROLL:      Lay $1200 #8 Place $600 #6

                                   2 standing bet's"    w $500_>< L $0<-Vig_$1_< net w/l/: $500

                               Player: S57            profile
Bankroll: $1728 Standing Bets: $150 Tray Bankroll: $1578
Players bet 16: NO BET>< NO BET 'INCORRECT FORMAT>Leave standing BET><As per: (75.00 dp )(40.00 horn 50.00 big red)

DEALER'S ACTION LAYOUT:   DP*D $75 Horn $10 #2,$10 #3, $10 #11, $10 #12 Big Red $50 Lay $150 #9

Reason for bet:  DP is hedged by dc 9 if the 7 shows which pays me 200.00 minus 40.00 hoping for 12/2/3

BETS IN PLACE FOR NEXT ROLL:    Lay $150 #9

                                          1 standing bets    w $150_>< L $`155<-Vig$0_< net w/l/: $5

                              Player: DiceDoc
Bankroll: $2675 Standing Bets: $0 Tray Bankroll: $2675
Players bet 16: NO BET>< NO BET 'INCORRECT FORMAT>Leave standing BET><As per: (200.00 Pass Line)(100.00 world)

DEALER'S ACTION LAYOUT:      PL*D $200 World $20 #11 $80

Reason for bet:   Same as last come out, I'm looking for a horn number. Eleven would be real nice right now.

BETS IN PLACE FOR NEXT ROLL:

                                       0 standing bets    w $500>< L $80<-Vig$0_< net w/l/: $420

                               Player: kvuo     profile
Bankroll: $2476 Standing Bets: $280 Tray Bankroll: $2196
Players bet 16: NO BET>< NO BET 'INCORRECT FORMAT>Leave standing BET><As per:

DEALER'S ACTION LAYOUT:      Place $50 #5, $120 #6, $60 #8, $50 #9

Reason for bet:

BETS IN PLACE FOR NEXT ROLL: Place $50 #5, $120 #6, $60 #8, $50 #9

                       4 standing bets    w $0_>< L $0<-Vig$0_<   net w/l/: $0

                                       Player:  P.L.G
Bankroll: $3760 Standing Bets: $350 Tray Bankroll: $3410
Players bet 15: NO BET>< NO BET 'INCORRECT FORMAT>Leave standing BET><As per: ($90 place bet on the 8, WORKING)( $100 world)($100 DP)

DEALER'S ACTION LAYOUT:   DPL $100 Placeon $50 #5, $60 #6, $90 #8, $50 #9 World $20 #11 $80 DC#8 $100

Reason for bet: I'm hedging the 8 on the comeout, if the 7 or 8 shows I win (on the 8). I think the trend is now about to end, I always get worried when a new shooter makes his point right back. I'm looking for this to be the junk roll of aces or ace/duece and capitalize on it. My DP is protected by the world..so we shall see. Looks like GSS is in desperation mode, but I'll stick to my guns here, If the devil shows, it could be over early....I however, do expect GSS to get what he's looking for...I could match it with a field bet, but choose not to...the next couple of rolls may determine the eventual winner.

BETS IN PLACE FOR NEXT ROLL: Place $50 #5, $60 #6, $90 #8, $50 #9 DC#8 $100

                                          5 standing bets    w $300_>< L $180<-Vig$_<   net w/l/: $120

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Roll #16 posted 10/28/02


Top 2 players and one on the bubble as of roll #17
1 P.L.G $3760
2 G.S.S. $3650
3b kvuo $2476

                            Player:  G.S.S.   profile
Bankroll: $3650 Standing Bets: 0 Tray Bankroll: $3650
Players bet 17: NO BET>< NO BET 'INCORRECT FORMAT>Leave standing BET><As per: :(Take it all down)

DEALER'S ACTION LAYOUT:

Reason for bet:  I want to be off for one roll. Not usually a good tournament strategy but a very effective and under-used tool for real play.

BETS IN PLACE FOR NEXT ROLL:

                                   0 standing bet's"    w $0_>< L $0<-Vig_$0_< net w/l/: $0

                               Player: S57            profile
Bankroll: $1538 Standing Bets: $0 Tray Bankroll: $1538
Players bet 17: NO BET>< NO BET 'INCORRECT FORMAT>Leave standing BET><As per: (40.00 horn)

DEALER'S ACTION LAYOUT:   Horn $40 Lay $150 #9

Reason for bet:  dc 9 hedges the 7 maybe he will hit the horn again

BETS IN PLACE FOR NEXT ROLL:

                                          0 standing bets    w $0_>< L $`190<-Vig$0_< net w/l/: $190

                              Player: DiceDoc
Bankroll: $2275 Standing Bets: $200 Tray Bankroll: $2075
Players bet 17: NO BET>< NO BET 'INCORRECT FORMAT>Leave standing BET><As per: 200.00 Pass Line)(400.00 World)

DEALER'S ACTION LAYOUT:      PL $200 World $400

Reason for bet:   Parlay-ing the entire win onto the World bet, looking for a repeat on the Eleven. Come on Shooter!.

BETS IN PLACE FOR NEXT ROLL:   PL#9 $200

                                      1 standing bets    w $0>< L $400<-Vig$0_< net w/l/: $400

                               Player: kvuo     profile
Bankroll: $2476 Standing Bets: $280 Tray Bankroll: $2196
Players bet 17: NO BET>< NO BET 'INCORRECT FORMAT>Leave standing BET><As per:

DEALER'S ACTION LAYOUT:      Place $50 #5, $120 #6, $60 #8, $50 #9

Reason for bet:

BETS IN PLACE FOR NEXT ROLL: Place $50 #5, $120 #6, $60 #8, $50 #9

                       4 standing bets    w $0_>< L $0<-Vig$0_<   net w/l/: $0

                                       Player:  P.L.G
Bankroll: $3760 Standing Bets: $550 Tray Bankroll: $3210
Players bet 17: NO BET>< NO BET 'INCORRECT FORMAT>Leave standing BET><As per: ($200 DP)(only the place bet on the 8 working)(

DEALER'S ACTION LAYOUT:   DPL $200 Place $50 #5, $60 #6, $90on #8, $50 #9 DC#8 $100

Reason for bet: I suspect the 4,5, or 10 here, haven't seen em, but with this shooter, it's highly probable. I don't think we'll see a horn on this roll.

BETS IN PLACE FOR NEXT ROLL: DPL#9 $200 Place $50 #5, $60 #6, $90 #8, $50 #9 DC#8 $100

                                          6 standing bets    w $0_>< L $0<-Vig$_<   net w/l/: $0

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Roll #18 posted 10/30/02


Top 2 players and one on the bubble as of roll #18
1 G.S.S. $4031
2 P.L.G $3730
3b kvuo $2546

                            Player:  G.S.S.   profile
Bankroll: $4031 Standing Bets: 600 Tray Bankroll: $3431
Players bet 18: NO BET>< NO BET 'INCORRECT FORMAT>Leave standing BET><As per: :(lay #9 for $600)(Buy #5 for $280)(Yo $25)

DEALER'S ACTION LAYOUT:         Yo $25 Buy*D $280 #5 Lay $600 #9

Reason for bet:  What follows 9's? Not more 9's , well it worked last time. Like heavy says there is a kernal of truth behind the old sayings. " Yo after nine and bet the playside."

BETS IN PLACE FOR NEXT ROLL:       Lay $600 #9


                                   1 standing bet's"    w $420_>< L $25<-Vig_$14_< net w/l/: $381

                               Player: S57            profile
Bankroll: $1513 Standing Bets: $0 Tray Bankroll: $1513
Players bet 18: NO BET>< NO BET 'INCORRECT FORMAT>Leave standing BET><As per: (25.00 BIG RED)

DEALER'S ACTION LAYOUT:   Big Red $25

Reason for bet:

BETS IN PLACE FOR NEXT ROLL:

                                          0 standing bets    w $0_>< L $25<-Vig$0_< net w/l/: $25

                              Player: DiceDoc
Bankroll: $2175 Standing Bets: $1700 Tray Bankroll: $475
Players bet 18: NO BET>< NO BET 'INCORRECT FORMAT>Leave standing BET><As per: :(600.00 odds on the pass line point of 9)(900.00 place on the 6)(100.00 horn)

DEALER'S ACTION LAYOUT:      PL#9 $200 f/0 $600 Place $900 #6 Horn $100

Reason for bet:   Well the parlay struck out big...oh well., easy come, easy go...I am looking for a big score on the 6 and/or 8. But what do I know, my knower is not functioning lately. Horns are supposed to follow 9's so we'll see...

BETS IN PLACE FOR NEXT ROLL:   PL#9 $200 f/0 $600 Place $900 #6

                                      3 standing bets    w $0>< L $100<-Vig$0_< net w/l/: $100

                               Player: kvuo     profile
Bankroll: $2546 Standing Bets: $280 Tray Bankroll: $2266
Players bet 18: NO BET>< NO BET 'INCORRECT FORMAT>Leave standing BET><As per:

DEALER'S ACTION LAYOUT:      Place $50 #5, $120 #6, $60 #8, $50 #9

Reason for bet:

BETS IN PLACE FOR NEXT ROLL: Place $50 #5, $120 #6, $60 #8, $50 #9

                       4 standing bets    w $70_>< L $0<-Vig$0_<   net w/l/: $70

                                       Player:  P.L.G
Bankroll: $3730 Standing Bets: $950 Tray Bankroll: $2680
Players bet 18: NO BET>< NO BET 'INCORRECT FORMAT>Leave standing BET><As per: (press the place bet on the 9 TO $150)( $100 DC) ($100 Horn) (Buy the 4 for $100)(Buy the 10 for $100)

DEALER'S ACTION LAYOUT:   DPL $200 Place $50 #5, $60 #6, $90 #8, $150 #9 DC#8 $100 DC $100 Buy $100 #4, $100 #10 Horn $100

Reason for bet: Looking for that craps check, or outside number. Hopefully we get by the devil here. By pressing the nine to $150 I've now guaranteed I'll win on both the 8 and 9. Need to get through the DC here and I'm set for the decision.

BETS IN PLACE FOR NEXT ROLL: DPL#9 $200 Place $50 #5, $60 #6, $90 #8, $150 #9 DC#8 $100 DC#5 $100 Buy $100 #4, $100 #10

                                          9 standing bets    w $70_>< L $100<-Vig$_<   net w/l/: $30

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Roll #19 posted 10/31/02


Top 2 players and one on the bubble as of roll #19
1 P.L.G $4130
2 G.S.S. $4014
3b S57 $2713

                            Player:  G.S.S.   profile
Bankroll: $4014 Standing Bets: 600 Tray Bankroll: $4014
Players bet 19: NO BET>< NO BET 'INCORRECT FORMAT>Leave standing BET><As per: ::(Take down the lay #9)(Give me $17 inside thats $5 #5,$6 #6,#8)

DEALER'S ACTION LAYOUT:          Place $17 inside

Reason for bet:  S57 is all in lets see if he hits.

BETS IN PLACE FOR NEXT ROLL:


                                   0 standing bet's"    w $0_>< L $17<-Vig_$14_< net w/l/: $17

                               Player: S57            profile
Bankroll: $2713 Standing Bets: $0 Tray Bankroll: $2713
Players bet 19: NO BET>< NO BET 'INCORRECT FORMAT>Leave standing BET><As per: (place all like bets in parentheses) (lay the 6 for 600.00 lay the 8 for 600.00 )(80.00 horn 100.00 big red)(100.00 hardways)

DEALER'S ACTION LAYOUT:   Big Red $100 Horn $80 Lay $600 #6, $600 #8 Hardways $100

Reason for bet:  Thats it all all in including vig

BETS IN PLACE FOR NEXT ROLL:

                                          0 standing bets    w $1400_>< L $180<-Vig$20_< net w/l/: $1200

                              Player: DiceDoc
Bankroll: $475 Standing Bets: 0 Tray Bankroll: $475
Players bet 19: NO BET>< NO BET 'INCORRECT FORMAT>Leave standing BET><As per:

DEALER'S ACTION LAYOUT:      PL#9 $200 f/0 $600 Place $900 #6

Reason for bet:

BETS IN PLACE FOR NEXT ROLL:

                                      0 standing bets    w $0>< L $1700<-Vig$0_< net w/l/: $1700

                               Player: kvuo     profile
Bankroll: $2266 Standing Bets: $0 Tray Bankroll: $2266
Players bet 19: NO BET>< NO BET 'INCORRECT FORMAT>Leave standing BET><As per:

DEALER'S ACTION LAYOUT:      Place $50 #5, $120 #6, $60 #8, $50 #9

Reason for bet:  computer blew up on friday night, just finally got new pc up and going, so gonna hang out and catch up.

BETS IN PLACE FOR NEXT ROLL:

                       4 standing bets    w $280_>< L $0<-Vig$0_<   net w/l/: $280

                                       Player:  P.L.G
Bankroll: $4130 Standing Bets: $0 Tray Bankroll: $4130
Players bet 19: NO BET>< NO BET 'INCORRECT FORMAT>Leave standing BET><As per: ( remove all my right side action)($100 world)

DEALER'S ACTION LAYOUT:   DPL $200 DC#8 $100 DC#5 $100 World $20 #2 $20 #3, $20 #11, $20 #12, $20 #7

Reason for bet: Looking for that craps check, or outside number. Hopefully we get by the devil here. By pressing the nine to $150 I've now guaranteed I'll win on both the 8 and 9. Need to get through the DC here and I'm set for the decision.

BETS IN PLACE FOR NEXT ROLL:

                                          0 standing bets    w $480_>< L $80<-Vig$_<   net w/l/: $400

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Roll #20 posted 11/1/02


Top 2 players and one on the bubble as of roll #20
1 P.L.G $4230
2 G.S.S. $4014
3b S57 $2953

                            Player:  G.S.S.   profile
Bankroll: $4014 Standing Bets: 3200 Tray Bankroll: $814
Players bet 20: NO BET>< NO BET 'INCORRECT FORMAT>Leave standing BET><As per: :Buy the outside numbers #4,#5,#9,#10 for $800 Each Working)

DEALER'S ACTION LAYOUT:          Buyon $800 #4, $800 #5, $800 #9, $800 #10

Reason for bet:  We've already seen the on the comeout once this game, and the #6 and #8 are played out. The others are all over the horn taking catch up long shots. So taking my own path here putting $3200 out there in a bid for the Golden Stones award. (And it's possible I'll get to demonstrate my own catch up strategy)

BETS IN PLACE FOR NEXT ROLL:      Buy $800 #4, $800 #5, $800 #9, $800 #10


                                   4 standing bet's"    w $0_>< L $0<-Vig_$0_< net w/l/: $0

                               Player: S57            profile
Bankroll: $2953 Standing Bets: $0 Tray Bankroll: $2853
Players bet 20: NO BET>< NO BET 'INCORRECT FORMAT>Leave standing BET><As per: (20.00 BIG RED 60.00 HORN HI ON YO/3 (I hope I did the Hi amounts right, I suppose if a dealer is use to the amounts you bet, he would know. However, there are many combination that would make the 2 & 12 a lower amount than the 3 & 11. From now on to be sure the right amounts of your money are on the right number, call each number with the amounts you want for uneven horn bets.) dealer

DEALER'S ACTION LAYOUT:   Big Red $20 Horn Hi on Yo/3 $10 #2, $10 #12, $20 #3, $20 #11

Reason for bet:  Nothing unusual my standard come out bet and taking HEAVYS advice the hi lo should be very near. When I opened the page on my browser I sloooooooooooowly scrolled down and saw the puck was off OH NO he made the point!!!!!!!! Then a thing of beauty the 7.shooter

BETS IN PLACE FOR NEXT ROLL:

                                          0 standing bets    w $300_>< L $60<-Vig$20_< net w/l/: $240

                              Player: DiceDoc
Bankroll: $375 Standing Bets: 0 Tray Bankroll: $375
Players bet 20: NO BET>< NO BET 'INCORRECT FORMAT>Leave standing BET><As per: (100.00 High Low - that is 50.00 on the snakes eyes and 50.00 on midnight)

DEALER'S ACTION LAYOUT:        Horn Hi-Lo $100

Reason for bet:   Well I'm going to chase the hi lo for a few rolls and see if I can't recover. Otherwise this is my sayonara bet. Lets hope the fat lady isnt singing my name yet.

BETS IN PLACE FOR NEXT ROLL:

                                      0 standing bets    w $0>< L $100<-Vig$0_< net w/l/: $100

                               Player: kvuo     profile
Bankroll: $2436 Standing Bets: $0 Tray Bankroll: $2436
Players bet 20: NO BET>< NO BET 'INCORRECT FORMAT>Leave standing BET><As per: ($50 pass line) ($40 horn)

DEALER'S ACTION LAYOUT:      PL *D $50 Horn $30 $10 #11

Reason for bet:  I think we gonna see a horn # -- no reason, just a hunch.

BETS IN PLACE FOR NEXT ROLL:

                                   0 standing bets    w $200_>< L $30<-Vig$0_<   net w/l/: $170

                                       Player:  P.L.G
Bankroll: $4230 Standing Bets: $100 Tray Bankroll: $4130
Players bet 20: NO BET>< NO BET 'INCORRECT FORMAT>Leave standing BET><As per: ($100 horn) ($200 DP)($100 4 working)

DEALER'S ACTION LAYOUT:   DPL $200 Place $100 #4 Horn $75   $25 #11

Reason for bet: Well, here we go! I suspected on the last roll the devil was ready. So what follows the devil? The Craps check. I have to agree with GSS here on the one count, that if it's not a horn, I say the easy 4. If it's big red, were all in trouble. The trend should now go cold, we may get a short reprieve next week, but, I think this will finish out on the darkside, just as if we were playing any live table, very hard to get more than 3 shooters in a row throwing numbers and hitting points. Come-on...gimme them boxcars! Carmen...I'll be there shortly honey!.................

BETS IN PLACE FOR NEXT ROLL:   Place $100 #4

                                          1 standing bets    w $375_>< L $275<-Vig$_<   net w/l/: $`100

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