AhCraps player's Betting History for 1st weeks rolls  for T5 Bets 1-5

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  Or should what be weak one? Actually - it's been an interesting series with a wide assortment of plays. This is a great opportunity to compare strategies - with all the benefits of 20/20 hindsight.

  In my pre-game observation I mentioned that everyone should CHART the table by looking at what rolled previously. Sixes and eights have been showing regularly - so the best opening bet I saw was KUVO's sixes and eights working on the come out - with a pass line bet hedge. That is exactly how I would have played it.

  Dice Doc opted for a line bet with a long shot WORLD hedge - one of my favorites if you're pre-setting the straight sixes. And Shooter - that $300 lay on the nine hedge bet was a thing of beauty. VERY creative.

  Now, the one wager that baffled me - as a charter - was the Gator's outside number bet. Again, I'm looking to follow a trend - and this table is trending toward the inside.

  What did we get next? The nine - which can be inside or outside - depending on how you call it. But NOBODY jumped on the "fives follow nines" myth. Ladies and Gents - there is a REASON for all of those old myths. They are founded in truth. And sure enough, there it was - the five.

  The third roll after the point was established was a very dangerous time. I expected the player either to make his pass, follow the five with a horn number, or seven out. As it turns out - his pass was made and the right way bettors scored.

  At that point the seven was due - and Dice Doc scored big with that ballsy lay action. I would NEVER lay BOTH the four AND the ten - but it worked for her so she's the hero of the hour.

  What's coming next? Oh, but I'm not supposed to guess - it might influence the players. But what the heck. I'd look for a repeat on the seven, the six or eight, or a horn number. Which would make me consider the WORLD bet once again - plus the six and eight working with a line bet hedge. But don't tell the players. I wouldn't want to influence their thinking . .

 

 

Roll #1  posted 10/7/02
      

Top 2 players and one on the bubble as of roll #1  
  kvuo $2570
2 P.L.G$2500
3b
G.S.S. $2490

                            Player:  G.S.S.   profile                                                           
Bankroll: $2490  Standing Bets: $270  Tray Bankroll: $2220 
Players bet 1: NO BET>< NO BET 'INCORRECT FORMAT>Leave standing BET><As per: :(Lay the #5 and #9 for $75 ea)(Bet $100 dont pass)(bet Hard #6 and Hard #8 for $10 ea)All working

DEALER'S ACTION LAYOUT:           DP $100  Lay $75 #5, $75 #9  Hardwayson $10 #6, $10 #8

Reason for bet:  New shooter following a longish hand, looking for a honeymooner (the ol' in an out). Hardways tend to group across multiple shooters so I laid the odd numbers to cover the dont.

BETS IN PLACE FOR NEXT ROLL:      DP $100  Lay $75 #5, $75 #9  Hardways  $10 #8
                                   
                                   0 standing bet's"    w $0_>< L $
10-<-Vig_$0_<   net w/l/: $10

                               Player: S57            profile                                              
Bankroll: $2250  Standing Bets: $0  Tray Bankroll: $2250 
Players bet 1: NO BET>< NO BET 'INCORRECT FORMAT>Leave standing BET><As per: [ 250.00 WORLD BET ]

DEALER'S ACTION LAYOUT:  
  World  $250 

Reason for bet:  The good ones have come and gone time maybe for some trash. Also I have always wanted to make a 250.00 world so I will get that out of my system first crack. Larry if the 7 rolls give me a push and put the same bet back up thanx, shooter

BETS IN PLACE FOR NEXT ROLL:  
                                   
                                          0  standing bets    w $0_>< L $
250<-Vig$0_<   net w/l/: $250

                                Player: DiceDoc                                                           
Bankroll: $2400  Standing Bets: $100  Tray Bankroll: $2300 
Players bet 1: NO BET>< NO BET 'INCORRECT FORMAT>Leave standing BET><As per: ($100.00 Pass Line)($100.00 World)

DEALER'S ACTION LAYOUT:  
 PL $100   World $100

Reason for bet:   Well it seems to be a bit warm in here. Box Numbers are rolling. Let's get with the shooter and see what develops.

BETS IN PLACE FOR NEXT ROLL:    PL $100
                                   
                                        1  standing bets    w $0>< L $
100<-Vig$0_<   net w/l/: $100

                               Player: kvuo                                                                 
Bankroll: $2570  Standing Bets: $120  Tray Bankroll: $2450 
Players bet 1: NO BET>< NO BET 'INCORRECT FORMAT>Leave standing BET><As per: $100 Pass line) (Place $60 each on the 6 and 8 -- WORKING)

DEALER'S ACTION LAYOUT:      PL $100  Placeon $60 #6, $60 #8

Reason for bet:  Looks like the shooter likes to roll inside numbers!

BETS IN PLACE FOR NEXT ROLL: PL#6 $100 Place $60 #6, $60 #8
              
                                          2  standing bets    w $
70_>< L $0<-Vig$0_<   net w/l/: $70

                                         Player:  P.L.G                                                    
Bankroll: $2500  Standing Bets: $440  Tray Bankroll: $2050 
Players bet 1: NO BET>< NO BET 'INCORRECT FORMAT>Leave standing BET><As per: place the 5 and 9 for $100 each, the 6 and 8 for $120 each (I know you are new, but all place bets are on auto-off during a come-out unless you say "working" or "on". Just like a real game.) dealer

DEALER'S ACTION LAYOUT:        Place $100 #5,  $120 #6, $120 #8, $100 #9

Reason for bet:  $440 inside, and by passing the comeout roll

BETS IN PLACE FOR NEXT ROLL:  Place $100 #5,  $120 #6, $120 #8, $100 #9
              
                                          0  standing bets    w $0_>< L $0<-Vig$0_<   net w/l/: $0

 

 

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Roll #2  posted 10/8/02
       

Top 2 players and one on the bubble as of roll #2  
  P.L.G$2640
2 kvuo $2570
3b
G.S.S. $2490

                            Player:  G.S.S.   profile                                                           
Bankroll: $2490  Standing Bets: $270  Tray Bankroll: $2220 
Players bet 2: NO BET>< NO BET 'INCORRECT FORMAT>Leave standing BET><As per: :(Take down the lays)(3xFree odds on DP#6 $360)(Hard #6 returns & press H#8 both $50) (not sure if you meant "to" $50 or in addition to the $10 making the total bet $60. I assumed smaller amount. Please be clear next time.) dealer

DEALER'S ACTION LAYOUT:           DP#6 $100 f/o $360    Hardways $50 #6, $50 #8

Reason for bet:  I predicted a honeymooner and what are large bankrolls for if not laying odds on the don't? Semi-protected by the Hard 6 and taking a small shot at the Hard 8.

BETS IN PLACE FOR NEXT ROLL:      DP#6 $100 f/o $360   Hardways  $50 #6, $10 #8
                                   
                                   0 standing bet's"    w $0_>< L $0<-Vig_$0_<   net w/l/: $0

                               Player: S57            profile                                              
Bankroll: $1925  Standing Bets: $200  Tray Bankroll: $1725 
Players bet 2: NO BET>< NO BET 'INCORRECT FORMAT>Leave standing BET><As per: )[100.00 DC/300.00 LAY THE 9][BUY THE 4 AND 10 50.00 EACH] [25.00 horn hi on the yo]

DEALER'S ACTION LAYOUT:  
  DC  $100  Lay $300 #9  Buy $50 #4, $50 #10 Horn hi-yo  $25

Reason for bet:  If the devil comes now I am down 25.00 yo gives me 50.00 profit over my lost dc -15.00 2 or 3 would be just great. PARKLAND GATOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!?????????????? (sounds mean - watch your back!) dealer

BETS IN PLACE FOR NEXT ROLL:  DC#9  $100  Buy $50 #4, $50 #10
                                   
                                          3  standing bets    w $0_>< L $
325<-Vig$0_<   net w/l/: $325

                                Player: DiceDoc                                                           
Bankroll: $2350  Standing Bets: $1120  Tray Bankroll: $1230 
Players bet 2: NO BET>< NO BET 'INCORRECT FORMAT>Leave standing BET><As per: (Place the 8 for $120.00)(Hard 6 for $50.00)(Hard 8 for $50.00)(Free Odds on 6 for $300.00)(Midnight $50.00)(Come Bet $100.00) (Lay the 4 for $400.00)

DEALER'S ACTION LAYOUT:  
 PL#6 $100 f/o $300   Place  $120 #8 Hard $50 #6, $50 #8  Midnite $50  CB $100  Lay $400 #4

Reason for bet:   I have the 6 and 8 covered should they hit. Looking for a little extra score if it comes the Hard Way. 6 and 8 are hedged by the Lay bet on the 4. Hardways hedged by the come bet.

BETS IN PLACE FOR NEXT ROLL:   PL#6 $100 f/o $300   Place  $120 #8 Hard $50 #6, $50 #8   CB#9 $100  Lay $400 #4  
                                   
                                        7  standing bets    w $0>< L $
50<-Vig$0_<   net w/l/: $50

                               Player: kvuo     profile                                                       
Bankroll: $2570  Standing Bets: $320  Tray Bankroll: $2250 
Players bet 2: NO BET>< NO BET 'INCORRECT FORMAT>Leave standing BET><As per: (bring down the place 6) (make the place 8 $120) ($100 odds on my PL bet)

DEALER'S ACTION LAYOUT:      PL#6 $100 f/o $100  Place  $120 #8

Reason for bet:  just betting with the shooter, conservatively !

BETS IN PLACE FOR NEXT ROLL:  PL#6 $100 f/o $100  Place  $120 #8
              
                                          2  standing bets    w $0_>< L $0<-Vig$0_<   net w/l/: $0

                                         Player:  P.L.G                                                    
Bankroll: $2640  Standing Bets: $320  Tray Bankroll: $2300 
Players bet 2: NO BET>< NO BET 'INCORRECT FORMAT>Leave standing BET><As per:  (same bet, $100 5 and 9, $120 6 and 8)

DEALER'S ACTION LAYOUT:        Place $100 #5, $120 #6 $120 #8, $100 #9

Reason for bet:  Starting with my basic play with a RR, bypass the come-out, aggressive inside bet, looking for that 1st hit. Previous roll history looks like a possible setter, using either the crossed 6's or mini v. I'm expecting an outside number here, 4,5,9,or 10 but using my normal play to start. I too expect a short roll from this shooter, hard to follow up a semi-hot? roll with another. At this point, trend appears to be positive.

BETS IN PLACE FOR NEXT ROLL:  Place $100 #5,  $120 #6, $120 #8, $100 #9
              
                                          4  standing bets    w $
140_>< L $0<-Vig$0_<   net w/l/: $140

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Roll #3  posted 10/9/02
       

Top 2 players and one on the bubble as of roll #3  
  P.L.G$2755
2 kvuo $2570
3b
G.S.S. $2490

                            Player:  G.S.S.   profile                                                           
Bankroll: $2490  Standing Bets: $270  Tray Bankroll: $2220 
Players bet 3: NO BET>< NO BET 'INCORRECT FORMAT>Leave standing BET><As per: :(Take down the HW's)(Bet $150 DC)

DEALER'S ACTION LAYOUT:           DP#6 $100 f/o $360    DC $150

Reason for bet:  Well this guy survived the two roll minimum but I'm fairly sure he's almost but not quite done. Let's get another Darkside bet established before returning those odds to the safety of my rail. Dealer: You were correct I was not very eloquent but I did want both HW bets to look like $50. I'll attempt to be more clear next time. Another good lesson for real table play!

BETS IN PLACE FOR NEXT ROLL:      DP#6 $100 f/o $360   DC#5 $150
                                   
                                   3 standing bet's"    w $0_>< L $0<-Vig_$0_<   net w/l/: $0

                               Player: S57            profile                                              
Bankroll: $1900  Standing Bets: $750  Tray Bankroll: $1150 
Players bet 3: NO BET>< NO BET 'INCORRECT FORMAT>Leave standing BET><As per: [300.00 odds on DC9)( 100.00 DC [LAY THE POINT6 FOR 150.00][25.00 HORN HI YO]

DEALER'S ACTION LAYOUT:  
  DC#9 $100 f/o 300 DC $100  Lay $150 #6  Buy $50 #4, $50 #10 Horn hi-yo  $25

Reason for bet:  Sticking to the darkside the 9 cost me 300.00 but I have laid that much against the 6 and won with far less money. If this goes bad I will get more conservative and try and keep it around 1500.00 until the last 10 numbers shooter

BETS IN PLACE FOR NEXT ROLL:  DC#9  $100 f/o 300 DC#5 $100 Lay $150 #6 Buy $50 #4, $50 #10
                                   
                                          6  standing bets    w $0_>< L $
25<-Vig$0_<   net w/l/: $25

                                Player: DiceDoc                                                           
Bankroll: $2300  Standing Bets: $2120  Tray Bankroll: $180 
Players bet 3: NO BET>< NO BET 'INCORRECT FORMAT>Leave standing BET><As per: (Lay the 4 for $700.00)(Lay the 10 for $700.00)(Midnight $50.00)(all other bets remain)

DEALER'S ACTION LAYOUT:  
 PL#6 $100 f/o $300   Place  $120 #8 CB#9 $100 Hard $50 #6, $50 #8  Midnite $50    Lay $700 #4, $700 #10 

Reason for bet:   Now I've got a pretty good situation set up with three inside numbers covered, a little Hardway action, and maybe a little somphin- somphin on the longshot. The 4 and 10 hedge all of the inside action. I'm looking for a few hits inside then... we'll see...

BETS IN PLACE FOR NEXT ROLL:   PL#6 $100 f/o $300  Place  $120 #8 CB#9 $100 Hard $50 #6, $50 #8     Lay $700 #4 , $700 #10
                                   
                                        8  standing bets    w $0>< L $
50<-Vig$0_<   net w/l/: $50

                               Player: kvuo     profile                                                       
Bankroll: $2570  Standing Bets: $320  Tray Bankroll: $2250 
Players bet 3: NO BET>< NO BET 'INCORRECT FORMAT>Leave standing BET><As per: (no changes)

DEALER'S ACTION LAYOUT:      PL#6 $100 f/o $100  Place  $120 #8

Reason for bet:  lets see what happens

BETS IN PLACE FOR NEXT ROLL:  PL#6 $100 f/o $100  Place  $120 #8
              
                                          2  standing bets    w $0_>< L $0<-Vig$0_<   net w/l/: $0

                                         Player:  P.L.G                                                    
Bankroll: $2755  Standing Bets: $320  Tray Bankroll: $2435 
Players bet 3: NO BET>< NO BET 'INCORRECT FORMAT>Leave standing BET><As per:  (remove the $120 on the 6, leave the other inside numbers up + add a $25 horn high yo [$5 aces, $5 ace/duece, $10 Yo, and a $5 12])

DEALER'S ACTION LAYOUT:        Place $100 #5,  $120 #8, $100 #9 Horn Hi-Yo $25

Reason for bet:  Looking for a repeat 9, could still be a setter using the crossed 6's which makes trash attractive at this point. Considered regressing to $160 or $80 inside, but will stay up for this roll and see what develops. Came down on the 6 taking a chance that the shooter won't hit his point on this roll. This conserves $120. Now risking only $205 ($345 - $140 win on the last roll) with the possibility to pick up $60 on the Ace/Duece, $135 on the Yo, Aces and boxcars, or $115 on the inside bets.

BETS IN PLACE FOR NEXT ROLL:  Place $100 #5,  $120 #8, $100 #9
              
                                          3  standing bets    w $
140_>< L $25<-Vig$0_<   net w/l/: $115

 

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Roll #4  posted 10/10/02
       

Top 2 players and one on the bubble as of roll #4  
  DiceDoc$2760
2 kvuo $2740
3b
P.L.G$2730

                            Player:  G.S.S.   profile                                                           
Bankroll: $2365  Standing Bets: $505  Tray Bankroll: $1860 
Players bet 4: NO BET>< NO BET 'INCORRECT FORMAT>Leave standing BET><As per: ::(Return my free odds please)(Make a $175 DC bet)(Make a field bet for $25)(Lay the #8 for $150)

DEALER'S ACTION LAYOUT:           DP#6 $100     DC#5 $150  DC $175 Field $25  Lay $180 #8

Reason for bet:  This shooter has one more good toss in 'em. Let's hope it isn't a number I got covered. If it is I'll have it covered with a bigger DC than gets knocked off. Let's see how good my predictor is with a little test - I've got money on the field and laying the non- field. Of course there is always Big Red

BETS IN PLACE FOR NEXT ROLL:        DC#5 $150     DC#6 $175  Lay $180 #8
    
Boxman was consulted concerning the word "Return" (could mean to the dealer in this format - if player thinks the bet will be removed - that he wants it up) meaning to "Take Down" ruled in players favor. But player promises to use the word "Down" for bet to be "Returned to him" 
                                   
                                   3 standing bet's"    w $0_>< L $
125<-Vig_$0_<   net w/l/: $125

                               Player: S57            profile                                              
Bankroll: $1900  Standing Bets: $750  Tray Bankroll: $1150 
Players bet 4: NO BET>< NO BET 'INCORRECT FORMAT>Leave standing BET><As per: Take the 300.00 odds on the nine and divide it equally between the 5 and 9 thats 150.00 odds each)

DEALER'S ACTION LAYOUT:  
  DC#9 $100 f/o 150 DC#5 $100 f/o 150 Lay $150 #6  Buy $50 #4, $50 #10

Reason for bet:  Not adding anything more using money already in action to cover more and add some protection

BETS IN PLACE FOR NEXT ROLL:  DC#9  $100 f/o 150 DC#5 $100 f/o 150 Lay $150 #6 Buy $50 #4, $50 #10
                                   
                                          7  standing bets    w $0_>< L $0<-Vig$0_<   net w/l/: $0

                                Player: DiceDoc                                                           
Bankroll: $2760  Standing Bets: $1720  Tray Bankroll: $1040 
Players bet 4: NO BET>< NO BET 'INCORRECT FORMAT>Leave standing BET><As per: 

DEALER'S ACTION LAYOUT:  
 PL#6*D $100 f/o $300   Place  $120 #8 CB#9 $100 Hard $50 #6, $50 #8     Lay $700 #4, $700 #10 

Reason for bet:   Now I've got a pretty good situation set up with three inside numbers covered, a little Hardway action, and maybe a little somphin- somphin on the longshot. The 4 and 10 hedge all of the inside action. I'm looking for a few hits inside then... we'll see...

BETS IN PLACE FOR NEXT ROLL:     Place  $120 #8 CB#9 $100 Hard $50 #6, $50 #8  Lay $700 #4 , $700 #10
                                   
                                        6  standing bets    w $
460>< L $0<-Vig$0_<   net w/l/: $460

                               Player: kvuo     profile                                                       
Bankroll: $2740  Standing Bets: $120  Tray Bankroll: $2620 
Players bet 4: NO BET>< NO BET 'INCORRECT FORMAT>Leave standing BET><As per: ($50 field)

DEALER'S ACTION LAYOUT:      PL#6*D $100 f/o $100  Place  $120 #8  Field $50

Reason for bet:  just a little action whilst waiting for that 6 -- he'll get it!

BETS IN PLACE FOR NEXT ROLL:    Place  $120 #8
              
                                          1  standing bets    w $
220_>< L $50<-Vig$0_<   net w/l/: $150

                                         Player:  P.L.G                                                    
Bankroll: $2730  Standing Bets: $160  Tray Bankroll: $2570 
Players bet 4: NO BET>< NO BET 'INCORRECT FORMAT>Leave standing BET><As per:  (Regressing down to $160, that is placing the 5 and 9 for $50 and place the 8 for $60)($25 horn hi aec/duece)

DEALER'S ACTION LAYOUT:        Place $50 #5,  $60 #8, $50 #9 Horn Hi-Yo $25

Reason for bet:  This is the point where you have to be careful. I've put the regression in place to lock up a profit on this shooter. I still think he may be a setter and suspect the crossed 6 set is in use. If this is the case, the trash is still attractive. Typically, if someone is throwing lots of inside #'s, trash is sure to follow in the middle of the mix...after the trash, the devil will follow within a couple of rolls. My theory being, that when a different number other than what he has "normally" thrown shows, he's getting tired or careless.

BETS IN PLACE FOR NEXT ROLL:  Place $50 #5,  $60 #8, $50 #9
              
                                          3  standing bets    w $0_>< L $
25<-Vig$0_<   net w/l/: $25

 

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Roll #5  posted 10/11/02
       

Top 2 players and one on the bubble as of roll #5  
  DiceDoc $3205
2 G.S.S. $2836
3b
P.L.G $2755

                            Player:  G.S.S.   profile                                                           
Bankroll: $2836  Standing Bets: $0  Tray Bankroll: $2836 
Players bet 5: NO BET>< NO BET 'INCORRECT FORMAT>Leave standing BET><As per: ::$1 Big Red)

DEALER'S ACTION LAYOUT:               DC#5*D $150  DC#6*D $175 Big Red $1  Lay $180 #8

Reason for bet:  Time to bring it all home. Dealer: Could you rewind the tape? I seem to have misplaced the $360 Free Odds that you returned to me last roll. I know it was here in the saftey of my rail. During all the celebrating these darn right side bettors were doing it's hard to say just where it wandered off. (The Box took me in the back room but we're ok now!) dealer

BETS IN PLACE FOR NEXT ROLL:        
                                   
                                   0 standing bet's"    w $
479_>< L $0<-Vig_$8_<   net w/l/: $471

                               Player: S57            profile                                              
Bankroll: $2100  Standing Bets: $100  Tray Bankroll: $2000 
Players bet 5: NO BET>< NO BET 'INCORRECT FORMAT>Leave standing BET><As per: Leave all bets as they are add (50.00 horn hi yo and 3 thats 10.00 ea 12/2 15.00 ea yo/3)( 4/10 are off)

DEALER'S ACTION LAYOUT:  
  DC#9*D $100 f/o 150 DC#5*D $100 f/o 150 Horn Hi-Yo-3 $50 #6  Buyoff $50 #4, $50 #10

Reason for bet:  Looking for come out 7/horn preferably the 7.shooter

BETS IN PLACE FOR NEXT ROLL:   Buy $50 #4, $50 #10
                                   
                                          2  standing bets    w $
400_>< L $50<-Vig$0_<   net w/l/: $350

                                Player: DiceDoc                                                           
Bankroll: $3205  Standing Bets: $1720  Tray Bankroll: $1040 
Players bet 5: NO BET>< NO BET 'INCORRECT FORMAT>Leave standing BET><As per: ($100.00 Pass Line)($100.00 Horn)(all bets work on the comeout)

DEALER'S ACTION LAYOUT:  
 PL*D  $100  Placeon $120 #8 CB#9 $100 Hardon $50 #6, $50 #8     Lay $700 #4, $700 #10 

Reason for bet:   The dice and the shooter are warming up. Probability of two consecutive passes drops to ~16.5% so I amy be stuck with a contract bet on the PL but I will have it hedged. The Horn bet hedges the craps on the come out and is a push if the 7 shows. The lay bets more than account for the place and come bets already out there. I think I'm sitting pretty for the next few rolls. Keep those inside numbers rolling, shooter!

BETS IN PLACE FOR NEXT ROLL:    
                                   
                                        0  standing bets    w $
800>< L $