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Dice Control:  How to Create a Hot Craps Table

By Jerry Patterson:

 

Knowledgeable gamblers have long recognized “The Big 4” – blackjack, poker, sports betting and thoroughbred racing – as the standard games in which an astute player can actually turn the odds in his favor and achieve an advantage over the house. 

 

But what about craps with its 1.4% house advantage or roulette in which the casino holds a seemingly insurmountable 5.6% advantage over the players?  Can an advantage actually be achieved, the house odds overturned, in these two games?

 

In this first of a series of articles on advantage play, I will describe how to attain an advantage in casino craps by using dice control.  I’ll discuss the issues of whether or not an advantage can actually be achieved, present some ideas for how to prove to yourself that an advantage exists, and give you some suggestions on how to attain and exploit an advantage by using dice control.

 

Let’s start by defining just what an advantage is.  If you're flat betting, i.e., betting the same amount on each roll of the dice or spin of the wheel or blackjack hand, you gain an advantage by winning more bets than you lose.  If you're varying your bet size, you attain an advantage by knowing when you enter the advantage arena and, thus, when to increase your bet size.  Put another way, if a system cannot beat the casino by flat betting, it is not an advantage system. 

 

Casino Craps

How would you like to walk up to a craps table knowing that you had an excellent chance of creating a hot table, that when your turn came to pick up the dice, you could throw number after number without the losing seven showing, collecting profits on almost every roll of the dice?     

How would it feel to make pass line bets and place bets with the confidence of collecting winnings, sometimes substantial winnings, before sevening out?

Most of the time hot shooters and hot tables like this occur by chance.  But, experienced “rhythm rollers” can create them.  And that’s what dice control is all about – developing a “rhythm roll” that turns the tables on the casino, swings the advantage to you the shooter, and gives you the means of creating a hot craps table.

To develop an advantage at craps, you must alter the physical phenomena of the game.  To do this, you must learn how to control the dice, that is, throw the dice in such a way as to minimize the number of losing sevens being thrown after the point number is established.  You achieve an advantage by throwing less than one 7 for every six rolls of the dice after the point has been established.

The idea of dice control has been around for years.  I first heard about it in the early ‘80s when an elderly gentleman in one of my craps classes demonstrated how to set and how to throw the cubes.  But his throw involved sliding the dice down the layout after setting them to achieve the desired result.  He called his throw “the old Army Blanket Roll” and it was widely used by sharpers among the Servicemen in World War II and, afterwards, on the back streets and in the illegal casinos in New York City and elsewhere.  You could get away with using it in the early days in Vegas, but the casino bosses soon caught on and outlawed “the slider.”  This sliding throw is the reason that the casinos string that thin piece of wire across the center of the table – to prohibit it by stopping the cubes on their path down the table.

A few other players showed me their parabolic controlled throws over the years none of which proved effective.  Either their throws were too high (thus drawing the ire of the Stick Man and/or Box Man) and/or bounced too much after landing and banging against the back wall, thus ending up as a random throw.

I began to fool around with dice control in the mid-90s after losing interest in blackjack.  I had about a two-year run of success at the craps tables which prompted me to analyze my play and ask the question “what am I doing different from before when I was losing?”  I concluded that my throw had become more rhythmic and that I was subconsciously analyzing the form of other shooters with a very discerning eye before committing to wager anything other than a minimum bet on their hand. 

A young engineer who called himself “Sharpshooter” came to my attention in one of my blackjack update seminars.  He had been doing research on dice control for a number of years and explained it thusly:      

“If you could simply set the dice on the desired result without having to throw them, you have controlled the dice 100%. If you could set the dice and just slide them a few feet carefully down a teflon surface, you would have the desired result, maybe 90% of the time.  Now envision the dice being lightly tossed through the air into a sandbox. As they land, they sink into the sand slightly and do not bounce.  Under these circumstances, the dice can be controlled about 70% of the time.”

We both agreed that in the real world of casino play, you must take into account the table surface that the dice must bounce and tumble over and the back wall with its diamond-like protrusions the casino requires you to hit. 

So gaining an advantage is no slam dunk, but, by learning how to set the dice, to grip the dice and to throw the dice, and then by repetitive practice, you can attain a measurable and substantial advantage over the house.

But I wondered just how much control would be required to eliminate the house edge and jump into the advantage arena.  So I asked Sharpshooter to develop a calculation of what it would take to overcome the house advantage and he worked out a formula which yielded a break-even point of just one controlled throw for every 43 rolls of the dice for the 6 and 8 place bets.  In other words, all it takes to eliminate the house edge is a skill level of throwing 7 sevens every 43 rolls of the dice instead of the random 7 sevens in 42 rolls.  He also developed the formula for computing the player advantage over the casino that I’ll get to below. 

Sharpshooter and I have since gone on to form a successful partnership to continue our research and to organize and manage craps teams.  Much of our work is taught in a comprehensive dice control course.  Our dice control methodology is introduced in a book we co-authored called Casino Gambling.

So what you are reading here is not just fuzzy theory; it has been time-tested under the fire of casino play for over five years.  

In this article, to simplify the explanation of deriving the player advantage, I will use 7 sevens in 48 rolls as the example – a “sevens-to-rolls ratio” of 1:8. 

In order to accomplish this, you need a consistent delivery system. You can compare a controlled throw to playing just about any sport.  Much like the basketball player working on his three-point shot or the golfer working on his swing, the “rhythm roller” practices his or her dice sets, develops a carefully balanced grip and executes the controlled throw with a soft release.

After you release the dice at about a 45-degree angle, ideally they should travel side-by-side and go through identical motions; they should land together, hitting the table flat, with minimal bounce, just grazing the rubber pyramidal backing and quickly coming to rest.  For the skilled rhythm roller, it looks as though only one die was thrown along the length of a mirror, and the second die is just its reflection. The key is to get the dice going through the same motion.  You are developing and using your "muscle memory" to achieve the consistency needed to overcome the house edge.

Craps is the only game where you, the player, can develop your own advantage and turn the house odds your way.  You have control!  You don’t have control in blackjack or other card games because you are at the mercy of the shuffle and the order of the cards in the shoe.  And you don’t have control in roulette because you have no way to influence the spin of the wheel or the release of the ball.

I asked Sharpshooter to develop a formula for calculating the advantage of a skilled rhythm roller.  His sharp engineering mind turned to the problem and quickly came up with the following formula for place bets to complement the break-even formula mentioned above:

Player Advantage (%) = (Actual Payoff – Correct Payoff) times Probability of Outcome times 100 percent

Now let’s plug in some numbers to compute the Player Advantage for the 6 and 8 place bets assuming the skilled player throws 6 sevens every 48 rolls instead of the 8 sevens which is random:

(7/6 – 6/7) times 7/13 times 100% = 16.67% where 7/6 is the actual casino payoff for the 6 and 8 place bets, 6/7 is the correct payoff and 7/13 is probability of outcome or frequency of occurrence. 

To understand these numbers you need to look at a new frequency distribution of 48 rolls instead of the standard 36.  In this 48-roll sample, we are assuming that the skilled rhythm roller only throws the 7 six times (instead of the random eight times), while the 6 and 8 are each thrown seven times.  Therefore, the “correct” house payoff for this altered game should only be $6 for each $7 bet instead of $7 for each $6 bet.  This is because the player now holds the advantage, not the casino.  The Probability of Outcome of either the 6 or the 8 is 7/13; i.e. throwing the 6 or the 8 before the losing seven shows.  To understand the 7/13, note that you have seven chances of throwing the 6 and 8 in 48 rolls but only six chances of throwing the 7 in 48 rolls; thus the probability of outcome is 7 divided by 7+6 or 7/13.

 So there you have it.  Can you achieve this 1:8 sevens-to-rolls ratio?  It all depends on your commitment and motivation to practice.  But it can be done and many of my and Sharpshooter’s students will attest to this fact.  If this 16.67% player advantage is too hard for you to believe, remember that an advantage can be achieved by surpassing the break-even sevens-to-rolls ratio of 1 to 6.14.  You could shoot for an SRR of 1:7 and command an advantage of about 9%!

Before giving you an introductory lesson in dice control, I must tell you that there is one “catch” to achieving this advantage – the dice must be in your hands.  When you don’t have the dice in your hands, you are subject to the random throws of the other players.  So the question you should ask is how many other players possess this skill and are they difficult to spot?  Answering this question is key to proving to yourself that dice control really works.  I suggest using what you learn in this article to search for other shooters possessing a controlled throw.  Keep a share eye for rhythm rollers on your next and subsequent trips to the casino, note whether they win or lose and how much, and you will have a pretty good idea about the efficacy of dice control.

Get out a pair of dice and hold them in your hands. Do that now and then come back here and continue reading (if you don't have a pair, I suggest picking one up from the drugstore or the casino the next time you go). Put the two 5s on top with the 1s pointing to the left.  Now look on the inside faces - open up the two 5s. What do you see?  A 6 on the left die and a 1 on the right die - the seven.

Now look at the two outside faces - the left face and the right face. You see the other 1 and the other 6 - another seven. In setting the dice this way, you are putting two of the sevens out of the way - one on the inside and one on the outside.  I know, I know, they may not stay there as the dice fly through the air, but as you learn to control the dice and keep them more or less together through their orbit, the chances of these two sevens coming up are minimized.  Not eliminated, minimized.

This set is called the hard way set because the pairs show on all four sides: 5,5; 4,4; 3,3; and 2,2. This is a good set to start with in learning how to execute a controlled throw.  The hard way set is just one of many sets you can choose; it’s not the most effective but the easiest to execute in the heat of casino play. 

Do the casinos let you set the dice?  Yes and no.  No, if you take too long.  They don’t want you holding up the game.  Yes, if you use an easy natural motion and are quick about it – in our dice control class we teach our students how to set in two seconds or less.

Very seldom will you get any heat from the pit if you set quickly and then don’t take too long to complete your controlled launch.  And you must follow the one main rule they do enforce – you much hit the back wall.  If you miss it once, they usually won’t say anything, but miss it twice and you will get an admonishment from the Box Man to hit the back wall.

The main objective of learning the controlled throw, of course, is to throw the long hand and score every time you throw a “number” you’ve bet on after the point has been established.  In the middle of a long hand you may get some heat or distraction from the Stick or the Box Man.  They know that a skilled rhythm roller can beat them.  Any heat of this type can be quickly dispelled by betting a toke on the line or on a hard way number “for the dealers.”

Learning how to set is just the first step in becoming a skilled rhythm roller.  The other two key factors are the grip and the throw itself.  I use a “pincer” grip with my pinky finger and forefinger acting as pincers, one on each end of the dice with my two middle fingers resting gently on top.  You need to experiment to find the grip you’re most comfortable with.  As for the throw, there are many different styles starting with overhand versus underhand.  Choosing your own throwing style leads to another key decision – table position:  Where is the best spot to throw from:  Table end?  Hook?  Next to stick?  These factors and decisions are all part of your learning process.  I’ll discuss them in my next article and also introduce the subject of roulette “signatures” as the key to overturning the house edge in roulette.  In the meantime, practice your controlled throw at home on the kitchen table or in the bedroom by throwing into an open dresser drawer.  And look for those rhythm rollers on your next trip to the casino.

  

Editor’s Note:  For more on dice control, pick up a copy of Jerry Patterson’s book – Casino Gambling: A Winner’s Guide to Blackjack, Craps, Roulette, Baccarat and Casino Poker or visit his Web Site at:  www.casinogamblingedge.com  

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             Special note from "ahcraps": This is an important article by a new webmaster by the name of  Katrina. She launched a new site at http://www.gamblinggirl.com and tells it like it is! If you are an online gambler - caution is the word! Remember, everything that glitters is not gold!

          Regulation is a sham! by gamblinggirl

I've been sitting on this for a while, but I can keep quiet no longer. These so called "commissions" and "organizations" that are here to supposedly "protect" players from getting screwed by online casinos are so bogus it hurts. The majority of them claim to be "not-for-profit" but if they're "not-for-profit", then I'm twelve (and I'm not twelve). They are golden cash cows being run by those crafty enough to manipulate an unlegislated industry.

I think the most blatant offender is the Kahnawake Gaming Commission. I'm all for Native rights, but give me a break. This so called commission has created a 70+ page document entitled "Regulations Concerning Interactive Gaming" for anyone who wants to start an online casino. They also have an "Application For Interactive Gambling License" and once you've filled that out, you can fill out the "Business Entity Information" and "Personal Information Form". This drives me nuts. What a perfect example of how individuals can highjack a completely unlegislated industry by setting themselves up as a respectable authority. 

Next on my hit list: The Off-Shore Gaming Association. Uh, yeah, offshore. That instills a lot of confidence. They claim to be a "professional non-biased third party organization that gives objective opinions, based on your feedback, independent research, phone calls, tips and inside news". Really? Then why do you run advertising on your site? This is a glorified affiliate site trying to attract traffic by billing itself as an "association". SafeBet states "To become a SafeBet member, your casino must undergo certain stringent quality control tests after which it will be given a certification level of Platinum, Gold, or Silver. Your certification level will be determined by the number of qualifications you wish your casino to meet." Wonder what these so-called "qualifications" are? They are called "Show. Me. The. Money". That's right - the only difference between a silver, gold and platinum rating is how much money the casino is willing to cough up. They really have the casinos over a barrel on that one, because who wants to be "gold" when there is "platinum" status? What? This casino is only "SafeBet Gold Certified? Hmmm...must be something wrong if they aren't "SafeBet Platinum Certified"!? Next year they will up the ante with "Titanium" certification.

The Interactive Gaming Council is open to anyone with $500US who is willing to fill out their form and mail it to some hacks in Vancouver, BC. That's a pretty good deal - run your business out of Canada and get paid in US dollars. The Electronic Gaming Commission states: "The Electronic Gaming Commission is a non-profit organization. We're funded by advertising revenues. However we only accept advertisements from our approved sites." Good thing they approve just about anybody. 'Nuff said.

So, in light of all of this, I am launching the Gambling Girl Gaming  Commission which will be a completely profitable firm whose sole purpose is to stick it to the man. Oh, and I'll also give anyone who is willing to pay me $500US a nifty little button for their site. All that, and you don't even have to fill out a form, because I will approve anyone who is willing to give me money. That's right - and I'm not even part of a special interest group, I'm just a girl looking to make a quick buck. So, send me an email at gg@gamblinggirl.com and I'll let you know where you can send your check to.

Gambling Girl

 

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My Last Outing      by: free4

 

Would like to share an experience with you from last outing.  I had the misfortune of being trapped between to random players of some what questionable ability in craps.  Many months ago,  you and I went thru understandings of the knower.  Guess what,  these 2 guys was watching my play scenario like a hawk.  Every time I made a move,  they would remain with their bets as is and wind up smacked.  I would be a winner.  After a time, the 20 questions started.  I tried to be courteous to them and still maintain my game. 

I remember one incident in particular,  a random shooter,  by the way had been watching him from prior rolls and he truly was a random shooter, he set point,  rolled a couple of times and them popped 2 craps back to back.  Having seen this,  I instructed the dealer to pull my bets down and give me a dollar any seven.  Bang,  he did the 7-out the very next roll. I save my place bets, and smacked'em with a BIG RED! 
                                             OHHHHHHHHHHHHHH  Yeah!    

Guy on my left said,  how did you know he was gonna do that?  I briefly told him that the indicator was 2 craps back to back and that he was a random shooter.  Guy on left was satisfied, but guy on right asked,  wellllllllllllllll,  what does random shooter mean and what's that got to do with it? 

First part of story is for you Larry,  I was up $54 across,  $44 insdie and $5...4/10.  I hit a 6,  pulled down to single unit on 6/8,  next roll I hit a 5,  pulled down to single units on set,  then pulled them all down when I saw the 2 craps in a row.  Your Pay-4-it-1st,  your "knower" and ultimately the 7-out,  and I was there for all of it.  One hell-of-a-job Pal!!!!!!!!!

Now,  all the time and effort I put into the study of dice geometry paid off for me mixed with your scenario in that "Knowing" dice axis,  set probability outcomes was additional support for identifying the magic "Indicator". 

To answer the guy's question on the right,  I gave him a very short description of die axis and what the 2 craps in a row indicated.  That was simply his random throwing was producing a dead ringer axis of 4 probable 7's and I knew using the progressive table of 7's I was gonna nail him. With this,  I had 2 undying attendants of quarries for duration of the session.  Didn't help my game any because of the distractions, but helped theirs abundantly.  Hey guy,  we did gooooooooood!

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The Way to Success! by Usdice

I was at my local barge the other week and shooting the dice. 2 guys come up beside me and lay down 300 bucks. They seemed to be very good friends. Anyway, the dice get to them and only the one guy shoots (He's #2 right next to me Rt. side of stick. I'm in the 1st position Rt. side)

So he starts fiddling with the dice and made some basic bets like $12.00 each 6 & 8.....pretty normal, so the guy fiddles with the dice every toss to set the dice in the 'Flying V'.

Well, most if not all of us know what the 'V' is that have studied the art of Dice Setting. So he tosses several numbers and 7's out. Not recouping his investment and he says to his partner, "I should be able to toss longer than that, I must not be throwing them correctly".

His next attempt goes pretty well. He tossed about a dozen numbers made 2 points and made some money back.

After the second shoot of his, I turn to him and say, " I see you are tossing the 'Flying V'".

He is astonished that I am familiar with it and said, " Yes, but I don't seem to be in rhythm"

I said, " How long you been tossing the bones".

He said, " This is my second time throwing dice".

I cracked a small smile and said "you need to toss a thousand more times to just be average, ten-thousand to get decent and 100,000 to begin to master your own method". He asked me if I toss the Flying V and I said sometimes just to see if I can have any success at it.

(Personal thoughts)

99.9 % of the crap shooters I have met have fixated in their head that the game of craps is a negative game where you can only get 'Lucky' and usually you will lose over time.

Sure, we know the laws of averages. The problem with the laws of averages is the game of craps is everything BUT average.

I would venture to say that people lose only because they have not mastered their own self discipline.

Well, this is all fine and dandy except it's exactly those kind of players I don't like to be around. I feel that negativity breeds negativity. Sort of like the rats going down with the ship thing.

You see life is full of 'Losing'. Since childhood the majority of people never learn how to lose.

People are raised with the notion that:

You have to WIN, you have to succeed, you have to get ahead and there is never any attention paid to the fact that 99.9% of the time at first we as individuals do not succeed, we do not win, we will LOSE. Overcoming the loss or how we as individuals respond from a loss is the key to your own self discipline. Self discipline takes countless hours of practice and we never quit learning how to master and control it.

The guy tossing the 'V' tells me he read about the 'V' in a new book he just bought. I'm thinking, I'm in the wrong line of work! I asked him if the book was one of several as I riddled off some titles and he didn't even know the authors name of the book he just bought.

The moral of this story is he lost all of his buy in. Got flustered when he was trying to set the dice and after betting his last dollar, stammered off the boat with his friend.

You see no matter what you do in life, 99.9% of the time to get decent at something, (most things that is unless you are a gifted individual in that realm)

Ya Gotta PRACTICE, PRACTICE & PRACTICE!

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How do you approach the game of Craps? The following Flow chart gives you a game plan provided by Free4:  

       The Craper's Flow Chart

 

 

ARRIVAL

 

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LEGEND:   BLUE BOXES IMPLY DECISIONS

YELLOW BOXES IMPLY CAUTION/NON-GAMING DECISIONS

GREEN BOXES IMPLY TABLE ACTION/YOUR GAMING METHOD

RED BOXES MEANS STOP

 

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The following is an ongoing dialog between Matt Gurr and myself concerning His struggle and success with the study of trends and the proper way to use Big Red Strategy. This was posted with the expressed permission of Matt with the hope it will help others deciding to get involved learning Situational Craps. Thanks Matt!  

 

----- Original Message -----
From: Matthew Gurr<mathewg@ozemail.com.au>
To: Larry F Freiwald <mygamble@juno.com>
Sent: December 4, 2000 11:50 PM
Subject: Re: Lesson #2

 Larry,
 I believe that there might be something to studying trends for Big Red.  Can I receive a copy of lesson #2?

 Rgds Matt G

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 ----- Original Message -----
From: Larry F Freiwald <mygamble@juno.com>
 To: <mathewg@ozemail.com.au>
 Sent:  December 04, 2000 1:34
 Subject: Lesson #2

 Hi Matt,
 Thank you for becoming involved with Situation Craps.  I will have lesson #2 available in the next week or so. How many sets have you done in Lesson #1? Spend as much time as you can doing sets. It is designed to develop your "Knower". That will take time. No easy way to learn to play the Situation. For the first 3 sets remember to just observe and do not draw an conclusions about any % of short trends! I just want you to see how Hot, Cold, and Choppy tables develop without the confusion of come-out and passes. Keep me posted on your progress.

 Thanks, Larry "AhCraps"!
 www.ahcraps.com
Play the Situation - Use a Strategy!

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----- Original Message -----
From: Matthew Gurr<mathewg@ozemail.com.au>
To: Larry F Freiwald <mygamble@juno.com>
Sent: December 5, 2000 11:50 PM
Subject: Re: Lesson #2

 Larry,
 I am very interested in your Lesson #2. My conclusions from lesson #1, are that the best chances for you to capitalize on the Big Red is when the 7 has been vacant for a long time. There seems to be a pattern evolve that the 7's are grouped together after a long absence of the 7. Is this similar to your conclusions?

 Rgds Matt G

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----- Original Message -----
From: Larry F Freiwald <mygamble@juno.com>
To: Matthew Gurr<mathewg@ozemail.com.au>
 Sent:  December 5, 2000 6:26 PM
 Subject: Re: Lesson #2

Hi Mat,
First I want you to forgive me for not communicating the strict requirements that tells me you are ready for lesson #2. You should have kept records of lesson #1. It is the times you were right about predicting a short cycle compared to the times you were wrong that is important. You do not mention the number of Sets that you have completed. Understand that lesson #1 is not about "Chances" it is about "KNOWING" Understand that this is a new direction I want to take the game of Craps. I want to develop a core of Situational Crap players that understand what playing the Situation is all about. Go back and carefully re-read the instructions for lesson #1. Try to understand what you are trying to achieve. It takes time to develop a skill. Embrace that time as you begin to learn what clicks inside you! I want you to develop this skill step by step the right way. Your success is my success! This is for your own good! Trust me. If you try to skip the foundation the house will fall! Remember that it will be your money at stake at the table - not mine! That alone should be the motivation to do things right. When the time is right send me the results.

 Thanks, Larry "AhCraps"!

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On Sun, 17 Dec 2000 19:59:06 +1100 "Matthew Gurr"

mathewg@ozemail.com.au> writes:

 Larry,
 I had done 120 cycles and charted the results when I emailed you last. Now I have just finished another 80 rolls and this is my results- 
18 cycles that I guessed were correct 
10 I guessed were wrong 
26 no-decision would of been correct 
26 no-decision would of been wrong 
Is this the information you are looking for? I am using the Star Casino Form Fun Software. I fully believe that you are on to something here, used in the right way, when the 7's are grouping together, it is profitable! Note that the average no. of spins over 200 cycles before the 7 came up was 4.

 Rgds Matt G

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 From: Larry F Freiwald <mygamble@juno.com>
To: <mathewg@ozemail.com.au>
Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2000 10:55 PM
Subject: Re: Lesson #2

 Mat,
     Why are you in such a hurry? It sounds like you have been playing for a long time. The casinos are still going to be there! Look, there is a reason for you to complete ALL 9 SETS. It is clearly marked in red in the instructions. (I am going to post very clear instruction soon.) If you took the time to read it, it's there!) I set it up that way not to make it difficult for you! I set it up that way for you to learn! It took me over 2500 cycles before I started to understand what it
meant to be in the flow. I am passing time saving information to you! 

    You are still talking about percentages. If this is all you want to see, go by the Odds charts - don't waste your time developing your "KNOWER"! I hope that you fully understand the levels of knowledge as you have done and continue to do the lessons. The first level is to convince yourself that short cycles can and do exist, and when you are ready you will discover that key indicators do exist. That is the ONLY value that Stats have! From that point on the lessons are designed to develop that unexplained KNOWER that is part of all of us. (Just knowing when something is going to happen) Your win consistency will improve as you focus on developing your KNOWER. Trends do not exist in a mathematical mindset - we want to make sense out of something that does not make sense. This is why whenever you THINK a number or trend is due because the math says it should - most of the time you are wrong! We walk a fine line between the way things should be and the way things are! The direction that Situational Craps is taking is to recognize this unexplained nature of trends and develop an unexplained KNOWING mindset to take advantage of the random situations. This can only be done in a relaxed state when you get "what you think should happen" out of the way, as you attempt to "Get in the Flow" when you just Know something is going to happen. This is the whole concept of table awareness that I talk about on my Situational Craps Page. I know that it is hard to understand what I am talking about because this is an area I can not show you - you have to experience it! 

    I do not know what you do for a living, but I am going to assume that you know more about what you are doing now than you did your first day on the JOB. It takes time, and work to achieve this level of play! If you do not have the discipline to complete lesson #1, you won't have the discipline to complete lesson #2! If I sold you this program, and you did it your way, you would lose big time! Believe me, you would want your money back! And you would have a few not-so-nice things to say to your friends. Not because it is a bad program, but because you want to cut corners. I am taking my time with you because  believe you want to learn. But if you can not follow instructions, please do not waste my time!

Thanks, Larry "AhCraps"!

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 On TUE, 19 Dec 2000 21:33:19 +1100 "Matthew Gurr"
<mathewg@ozemail.com.au>writes:

 Larry,
 I am sorry that I am trying to rush this, as I have seen soo many strategies and soo many systems that do not work, that when one comes along that I think has merit, I try to make it work! I appreciate your patience and will return your email when I have done the appropriate homework.

 Rgds Matt G

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 ----- Original Message -----
From: Larry F Freiwald <mygamble@juno.com>
To: <mathewg@ozemail.com.au>
Sent: Tue, Dec 19, 2000 11:50 PM
Subject: Re: Lesson #2

 Just know that I am here if you have any questions! Just relax and enjoy each session. The first few sets, only pick out strong opportunities. The ones you KNOW are going to be short. It may be only three or four in a set - But if you select the ones you Know - and you are right - that's a 100 %. As you begin to get in the flow you will be able to predict more. Hang in there, we'll make a Situational Player out of you yet!

Thanks, Larry "AhCraps"!

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 On Tue, 16 Jan 2001 20:25:10 +1100 "Matthew Gurr"
<mathewg@ozemail.com.au>
writes:

 Larry,
 I have just finished completing 10 sets. Using the BIG RED strategy on the last 3 sets I would of won $1740 using $10 unit progression! Guessing correct on 20 occasions and wrong on only 3. I cannot believe that I was right so many times!
Am I just lucky? I look forward to Lesson #2, as I don't know how you can make this strategy any better! RELAXED DISCIPLINE is the key, I just got to a stage especially in the last set, where I thought I knew what was going to happen, and I have only done 10 sets!! In my next few sets, I am going to combine Pay For It First and the BIG RED strategy and will keep you posted on my continuing results.

     Rgds Matt

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---- Original Message -----
From: Larry F Freiwald <mygamble@juno.com>
To: <mathewg@ozemail.com.au>
Sent: Tue Jan 16, 2001 11:50 PM
Subject: Re: Lesson #2

Hi Matt,
 I want you to know that your last e-mail has made the last few
years of  work developing Situational Craps worth every minute of it! You  are the first viewer (student) that has understood the concept of the "KNOWER". I knew that it would be difficult to change the minds of players to be able to see craps in a different light, and I was proven right. The fact is, you are the FIRST to fully understand what my site is all about. Because of you I am sure that more will follow. I am going to over look your comment about your just being lucky. During the last 3 sets, you observed 360 cycles. You demonstrated the patience to only play the 23 that you KNEW had a chance to be short! You were correct 20 of the 23 time - that goes way beyond luck! To give luck the credit, you would have had to play Big Red on all 360 cycles and by chance (luck) ran into a number of cold cycles that would give you a win. Even though this may have been possible, you would have to depend on running into that "LUCKY" situation again to be able to repeat your win. But because you KNOW why you won - you can repeat that win by knowing the right situation! I am going to ask you a favor for the benefit of all those bone heads (craps players) out there. We have kept a running dialog of the importance of learning Situational Craps the right way. With your permission I would like to post our dialog from the time you thought there was an easy way to learn, to the point of your success. I would need to use your full name and e-mail address to verify that your success is not something I just made up. Think about it and let me know. I will be sending you lesson #2 shortly. You will be able to expand your knowledge of short cycle by being able to predict the end of a long cycles! However, I caution you that like predicting short cycles, using key indicators will not work all the time. But learn to trust your knower. I will be looking forward hearing of you continued success!

 Thanks, Larry "AhCraps"!
 www.ahcraps.com
 Play the Situation - Use a Strategy!

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On Tue, 16 Jan 2001 20:25:10 +1100 "Matthew Gurr"
<mathewg@ozemail.com.au>
writes:

Larry

I would be happy to participate. Anybody who wishes to email me about my results, I will be happy to share them! Thanks for Lesson #2, I will keep you posted on my results.

Rgds Matthew Gurr

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I hope this dialog has been of benefit to you if you had any questions regarding what is required for you to become a successful Situational Craps Player. If you linked from Lesson #1 you can return: Lesson #1 Or you can read other reports form player students. They too hung in there to reap the rewards!

On Wen, 4 Apr 2001 20:25:10 +1100 "Dan Sullivan"
<dsul345@aol.com>
writes:

Hi Larry,
I'm ready for lesson #2.
I just finished the 9th set of lesson #1, The ninth set I made 25 bets
and won 19.
I believe I would be more proficient at predicting short rolls if I had been
able to work on it more, But this morning I started set # 9 and after about
20 cycles I was in the groove.
I didn't really get a real feel of knowing until my 7th set although from set
4 on I was right more than wrong. Thanks for a great site!
Regards,
Dan Sullivan

On Wen, 11 Apr 2001 10:25:10 +1100 "Jerry Davis"
<sdavisdolls@msn.com>
writes:

Dear Larry:

I just completed 9 sets and I feel like I'm walking on air. My score is 35 wins and 6 losses. I live in Las Vegas and play 3 or 4 times a week. I am a don't player and very cognizance of the 7.Over 35 years I have read dozens of articles on dodging the 7 and utilized many of their ideas so the 7 is my friend. There is a system called Craps Pro I used for 6 months recording each number thrown on a pad and the ratio numbers/ 7's.I received so much ridicule from the dealers and players for recording the throws I gave It up. I now use the rack for recording. In any event ,I am very pleased with your efforts in creating Big Red System.

 Thank you very much,

Jerry Davis

 


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The following will be a few of the comments that I have received. They may answer a question you have or may encourage you to be the "Best You Can Be!"
  
(All e-mails are posted only with the permission of the sender!) 

Special thanks to all that have responded! Larry F

Hi Larry!
Greetings and Good Evening to you. I want to thank you for your excellent
work on this site. I am just up to my ninth session of practice. I do intend
to continue with all sets as described in the sit-craps area.
Tonight, we went to the local riverboat. I decided to track the table for the first time and play the Big Red strategy. It worked wonderfully. I had a nice roll myself (12 rolls with three points made) and made $1850.00 on the Big Red! The fun was turning everyone's heads as the green chips piled up in the rack. The pit boss came over and winked at me. I said:  "The seven is what the game is all about, right? And he replied: "You finally got it!"
I am eager to combine this strategy with Pay 4 it and my rhythm rolling
abilities.
Thanks for creating this site. I'll be sure to share it with my pals.
Peg
aka DiceDoctor  DiceDoctor1259@aol.com  

Read your BIG RED system.  I'm not one to advocate increasing your bets when losing, however, I'm willing to try the system.  Sounds interesting and could prove to be a good method. Really enjoyed the way you explained gambling and trends.  I agree with you about what you said concerning the vig and house odds.  Your explanation of these and the "long run", are the best that I have ever read.
       Dan

On Mon, 18 Dec 2000 10:33:37  "perry benedik" <pbenedik@hotmail.com>

>writes:

Hi, Larry. Thanks for taking the time and patience to put up with people like myself who are slow to change their way of thinking about the game of craps. I had only casually glanced at your website before, but after closer observation, I have decided to try out your method of charting the live tables for myself, since I live near a casino. I will also use my gaming program, that way I can check if there is a difference. I'll get back to you very soon with some of my results. I am looking forward to the study of 7-cycles. Until then, best regards, Perry. 

Hi Larry,

A friend told me to visit your web site, he knows I am a human sponge for new craps strategies. I have passed along your web site to some of my friends. I look forward to your BIG RED strategy. I see merit in it. I was talking to a gentlemen who I see at the riverboats a lot here in Illinois. He intrigues me because he bets the Big Red and plays the field, I am interested in this person because he doesn't bet on every roll or every shooter. He doesn't win every time but he wins more than he loses and is a heavy bettor. He plays a progression at times on the Big Red and that's interesting in itself. Hope to hear from you soon!

Wes Victors

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comments = I have been playing craps for a long time and became a DP bettor long ago .My method was to find the coldest table I could find in the casino. My play was bet DP for 3 shooters /rest make some place bets if the shooter threw some numbers go back to DP for 2 shooters rest again for 2 players then back again to 3 on the DP. I found this method to work very well and it happened quite naturally without much thought on my part. After doing the sets I began to see why this might have occurred plus adding big red which grabbed my interest right from the beginning it has to be the ultimate dark side wager. I would like to try lesson 2 as you say knowledge is power. THANKS VIC

 

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Learn all you Can! by: John Rudden

  Craps is more than just a game. It's a challenge. A chance to do battle against the odds. A test of your luck against the house. You tempt fate. Will you experience the thrill of victory of the agony of defeat?
    You approach the table. Before you lies the green field of battle. You buy your chips and enter into the unknown. This leather bound table represents a world of possibilities and it is, for the moment, your only reality.
    Your objective is to beat the house at it's own game. Can you make the Pit boss sweat? Will Lady Luck shine her light upon you? But you need more than just luck to succeed. Simply making random bets in a haphazard way will almost surely end up in disaster. You will need a plan. Some method or strategy that will help you survive the house edge.
    The odds are against you and that makes it impossible for any system you use to beat the house consistently in the long run. There are, however, some bets that you can make with a low house edge. You need first to determine how the dice are running.
    When you first start betting, take it slow. Get a feel for the table. Are a lot of numbers being thrown and points being made? Or is the seven coming up before you win back your bets? Once you determine which way you think the dice are running, you would start to bet accordingly. Place bets on the six and eight are good for a hot table. Don't come bets are good for a cold table.
    There are hundreds of systems and methods you can try. You also need to know about money management, betting progressions and discipline.
    I have put together a great learning resource in the Craps Pit, http://www.starchip.com/crapspit.htm. There are over 100 systems from all over the web that  are listed in the database. You'll also find betting methods, links, a message board and much more. Best of all it's free!
    Craps is an exciting game, where, once you learn a few simple bets, you can win money and have fun at the same time.

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An Introduction to Gambling on the Net
         by Charlie Post, charlie@better-betting.com

Hello, craps players! My name is Charlie Post, and I am co-editor of the Better Betting website at http://www.better-betting.com . Better Betting has been online for about two years now, and in that time we've built a site that's packed with information about online casinos. From in-depth reviews to strategy articles to our weekly top ten to our interactive message board, we try to offer pretty much everything an internet gambler could possibly want. When Larry approached me about writing an article for Ah Craps, I jumped at the opportunity. So I'd like to thank Larry for giving me this space!

OK, down to business. Have you gambled online before? I suspect that most of you haven't, and I think I know why. There's a lot of confusion about online casinos: is it legal to play? Is your credit card information safe? Can your computer and internet connection handle it? And most importantly, can you trust an online casino to offer fair odds, good service and a secure environment?

These are a lot of questions to answer, and it's no wonder that people are apprehensive about getting started with internet gambling. We've all heard stories in the press about shady casinos ripping people off, or operating illegally, or running into financial trouble. There have been some horror stories, it's true. And no one can guarantee that you won't have the same problems.

But if you're smart about where you play, and you get a little bit of help from the online community, you can keep yourself safe. That's where Better Betting comes in; we offer advice and recommendations on the casinos we've played. We're not really any different from any other online gambler... we just tell you what we find, and let you decide whether to play or not. I'll t